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		<title>By: Mrs. Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, ladies!  As I&#039;ve just begun my book review blog, I think there&#039;s a delicate balance to objective reviewing.  It takes a finesse I&#039;m trying to master!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, ladies!  As I&#8217;ve just begun my book review blog, I think there&#8217;s a delicate balance to objective reviewing.  It takes a finesse I&#8217;m trying to master!</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a slight method to my reviewing but I&#039;ve never thought of it that way. I think about mainly the characters - A story with not well-developed, inconsistent characters is a story ruined, to me. I can forgive a shaky plot and pretty much anything but crappy characters that don&#039;t make me care about what&#039;s happening to them. 

What it comes down to (at least, pertaining MY reviews) is what I like or did not like about the book - the plot, the worldbuilding, the characters (!) etc. It all makes a circle of awesomness (or suckiness) that I will either love or throw against the wall.

Regarding grades, I flipping hate them! Not until recently did I start rating books because I was asked to, but it&#039;s just too hard to consistently rate a book when there are things I did or didn&#039;t like about it. 

Anyway, just my two cents! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a slight method to my reviewing but I&#8217;ve never thought of it that way. I think about mainly the characters &#8211; A story with not well-developed, inconsistent characters is a story ruined, to me. I can forgive a shaky plot and pretty much anything but crappy characters that don&#8217;t make me care about what&#8217;s happening to them. </p>
<p>What it comes down to (at least, pertaining MY reviews) is what I like or did not like about the book &#8211; the plot, the worldbuilding, the characters (!) etc. It all makes a circle of awesomness (or suckiness) that I will either love or throw against the wall.</p>
<p>Regarding grades, I flipping hate them! Not until recently did I start rating books because I was asked to, but it&#8217;s just too hard to consistently rate a book when there are things I did or didn&#8217;t like about it. </p>
<p>Anyway, just my two cents! <img src='http://thebooksmugglers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Carrot72</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Carrot72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Convergent findings of high-qual- ity research have clarified how children learn to read and what must be done to ensure that they do. ,</description>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kmont, I have to sort of agree on the summarizing thing...I can spend a lot of time thinking of how best to summarize the book, when what ends up coming out often just sounds like a back cover blurb. Why not just use the back cover blurb? I&#039;ve never felt very strongly about a reviewer summary v. back blurb...it&#039;s a good suggestion. Ana, I do think you&#039;re also right in that a reviewer-written summary can really color how the reviewer perceived the book...but at the same time I am throwing my hands up in the air at my current lack of time. I am such a shamefully inattentive blogger right now.

Ana, I know what you mean about wanting that rating, it can be so useful. And I&#039;m not against it in a broad sense. Sometimes I really jealous that people can assign a grade like that, honestly! It drives me nuts over at Lit Mob that I have to assign a 1-5 star rating. I&#039;m so ambivalent that all of my reviews fall in the 2-4 star range since they&#039;ve all been varying degrees of good or not good. I think my brief fling of producing quantifiable reviews solidified my inability to do so :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kmont, I have to sort of agree on the summarizing thing&#8230;I can spend a lot of time thinking of how best to summarize the book, when what ends up coming out often just sounds like a back cover blurb. Why not just use the back cover blurb? I&#8217;ve never felt very strongly about a reviewer summary v. back blurb&#8230;it&#8217;s a good suggestion. Ana, I do think you&#8217;re also right in that a reviewer-written summary can really color how the reviewer perceived the book&#8230;but at the same time I am throwing my hands up in the air at my current lack of time. I am such a shamefully inattentive blogger right now.</p>
<p>Ana, I know what you mean about wanting that rating, it can be so useful. And I&#8217;m not against it in a broad sense. Sometimes I really jealous that people can assign a grade like that, honestly! It drives me nuts over at Lit Mob that I have to assign a 1-5 star rating. I&#8217;m so ambivalent that all of my reviews fall in the 2-4 star range since they&#8217;ve all been varying degrees of good or not good. I think my brief fling of producing quantifiable reviews solidified my inability to do so <img src='http://thebooksmugglers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kmont – ah,  I was waiting for you!  I agree that the Larkin Criteria should be a guide only that shouldn’t suppress our individuality and I don’t think anyone would disagree with this view. I don’t think that having one necessarily excludes the other. 

As for the summarising: I don’t think I will ever remove than from my reviews because in many ways Summary= Plot to me. I always start with a couple of paragraphs on that because the way a reviewer summarises the book makes a difference in my opinion: it shows how someone read the book and it helps much more than the blurbs or back page summaries I think.  

I agree that reviews do count: how could they not? If they didn’t, blogs wouldn’t be increasingly popular. I know we can’t quantify it, but I am sure it does help. But  I think the reviewers that will quit or the ones that don’t count as much are the ones that put NO THOUGHT whatsoever to what they were doing. So we are back to the “I love this book, It was a quick read” type of reviews – they are not good to readers, authors or PR.Or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kmont – ah,  I was waiting for you!  I agree that the Larkin Criteria should be a guide only that shouldn’t suppress our individuality and I don’t think anyone would disagree with this view. I don’t think that having one necessarily excludes the other. </p>
<p>As for the summarising: I don’t think I will ever remove than from my reviews because in many ways Summary= Plot to me. I always start with a couple of paragraphs on that because the way a reviewer summarises the book makes a difference in my opinion: it shows how someone read the book and it helps much more than the blurbs or back page summaries I think.  </p>
<p>I agree that reviews do count: how could they not? If they didn’t, blogs wouldn’t be increasingly popular. I know we can’t quantify it, but I am sure it does help. But  I think the reviewers that will quit or the ones that don’t count as much are the ones that put NO THOUGHT whatsoever to what they were doing. So we are back to the “I love this book, It was a quick read” type of reviews – they are not good to readers, authors or PR.Or not?</p>
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		<title>By: Ana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiah – thanks for your input, as well. I hate the “I loved this book, it was a quick read.” That doesn’t tell me anything I need to know. I too do not purchase a book unless I read reviews of it. UNLESS it is a highly anticipated book that I can’t wait to get my hands on it.   

Kristen – thanks, that is very kind of you. We aim to be thorough whilst still having fun.  You get your fiancée to read your reviews? Cool. 
Re: the memory problem: I think it helps me a lot that I write down pointers as I am reading the books. Keywords to describe the characters, or how I felt at a certain point. 

Kate: I know I did print it and it’s pinned to my calendar  , I totally fell in love with his criteria. 
The grading part is so difficult sometimes. Thea and I exchange several emails on the subject on occasion especially when we are doing our joints.   But even if I find it difficult , I think it is helps to focus and to be honest, it is one thing that I am always looking for in a review. I love your reviews and Jessica’s as well but in the end I often think to myself….so was that a 7 or a 8 graded book? 

Mame - I am loving this conversation as well! Thanks for taking part. You know, one of the things that I find REALLY hard is to carry on reading poorly reading books. It drives me nuts when I recognise potential in the characters and plot but can’t go on because of the writing.   I find the other way around is easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiah – thanks for your input, as well. I hate the “I loved this book, it was a quick read.” That doesn’t tell me anything I need to know. I too do not purchase a book unless I read reviews of it. UNLESS it is a highly anticipated book that I can’t wait to get my hands on it.   </p>
<p>Kristen – thanks, that is very kind of you. We aim to be thorough whilst still having fun.  You get your fiancée to read your reviews? Cool.<br />
Re: the memory problem: I think it helps me a lot that I write down pointers as I am reading the books. Keywords to describe the characters, or how I felt at a certain point. </p>
<p>Kate: I know I did print it and it’s pinned to my calendar  , I totally fell in love with his criteria.<br />
The grading part is so difficult sometimes. Thea and I exchange several emails on the subject on occasion especially when we are doing our joints.   But even if I find it difficult , I think it is helps to focus and to be honest, it is one thing that I am always looking for in a review. I love your reviews and Jessica’s as well but in the end I often think to myself….so was that a 7 or a 8 graded book? </p>
<p>Mame &#8211; I am loving this conversation as well! Thanks for taking part. You know, one of the things that I find REALLY hard is to carry on reading poorly reading books. It drives me nuts when I recognise potential in the characters and plot but can’t go on because of the writing.   I find the other way around is easier.</p>
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		<title>By: KMont</title>
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		<dc:creator>KMont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My process seems to stop at the book info I type up for each book I review, the ISBN, genre, etc beside the book covers. I&#039;m not naturally an organized person, and each book effects me differently anyway, so for me there doesn&#039;t seem to be any way to structure reviews the same each time. I get bored if I try to do that. I do however envy and admire the reviewers that have an obvious process and structure for reviewing.

The Larkin list mentioned is a good one, and I can see its uses, but I mainly just try to convey the depth of the characters I read, how the world around them effects them and the plot, how well-written said plot was and, finally, if the authors particular style made an impression, I&#039;ll comment on that as well. I don&#039;t use this every time though, like I said, it depends on how each book impacts me. I suppose I believe, because books are individually so different to me, that one structure isn&#039;t necessarily reasonable. It would be like trying to assimilate us all into one mindset on reviewing, hence wiping out our individuality and what makes our reviews uniquely enjoyable.

I enjoy, so much, the differences in all of our review &quot;styles&quot;, or voices, if you will. I wouldn&#039;t want to see one set of rules for everyone. Larkin&#039;s rules/list as a guide? Sure, but a guide only.

One concession, or change I&#039;ve made recently in my reviews was to stop personally summarizing the book. I&#039;ve seen so many comments from readers over the last year that the summaries aren&#039;t what they want, they want the reviewer&#039;s opinions on the book itself. I admit, the lack of time lately has made this switch to using back cover blurbs easier on me, but it also allows me to get that much quicker into the meat of the review before I lose any key points I want to make. So, win win. I expect the way I review will keep changing in little ways over time. To try to structure that into ONE process, stifle it, wouldn&#039;t enable me to write reviews very well.

And this is slightly off topic, but it&#039;s still about reviews - reviews do count. Even if you&#039;re an amateur blogger/reviewer like me, they do matter to someone. I see so many people these days saying that in terms of book sales, PR for authors, etc. that reviews don&#039;t make a difference one way or another, and this has led to some people feeling they don&#039;t need to bother writing reviews anymore. I say even if it&#039;s only something you enjoy doing, your pastime, then do it. Reviews are important. I have no clue HOW important what I do is to someone else, but it&#039;s important to me and that&#039;s got to count for something.

Anyway, nice post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My process seems to stop at the book info I type up for each book I review, the ISBN, genre, etc beside the book covers. I&#8217;m not naturally an organized person, and each book effects me differently anyway, so for me there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any way to structure reviews the same each time. I get bored if I try to do that. I do however envy and admire the reviewers that have an obvious process and structure for reviewing.</p>
<p>The Larkin list mentioned is a good one, and I can see its uses, but I mainly just try to convey the depth of the characters I read, how the world around them effects them and the plot, how well-written said plot was and, finally, if the authors particular style made an impression, I&#8217;ll comment on that as well. I don&#8217;t use this every time though, like I said, it depends on how each book impacts me. I suppose I believe, because books are individually so different to me, that one structure isn&#8217;t necessarily reasonable. It would be like trying to assimilate us all into one mindset on reviewing, hence wiping out our individuality and what makes our reviews uniquely enjoyable.</p>
<p>I enjoy, so much, the differences in all of our review &#8220;styles&#8221;, or voices, if you will. I wouldn&#8217;t want to see one set of rules for everyone. Larkin&#8217;s rules/list as a guide? Sure, but a guide only.</p>
<p>One concession, or change I&#8217;ve made recently in my reviews was to stop personally summarizing the book. I&#8217;ve seen so many comments from readers over the last year that the summaries aren&#8217;t what they want, they want the reviewer&#8217;s opinions on the book itself. I admit, the lack of time lately has made this switch to using back cover blurbs easier on me, but it also allows me to get that much quicker into the meat of the review before I lose any key points I want to make. So, win win. I expect the way I review will keep changing in little ways over time. To try to structure that into ONE process, stifle it, wouldn&#8217;t enable me to write reviews very well.</p>
<p>And this is slightly off topic, but it&#8217;s still about reviews &#8211; reviews do count. Even if you&#8217;re an amateur blogger/reviewer like me, they do matter to someone. I see so many people these days saying that in terms of book sales, PR for authors, etc. that reviews don&#8217;t make a difference one way or another, and this has led to some people feeling they don&#8217;t need to bother writing reviews anymore. I say even if it&#8217;s only something you enjoy doing, your pastime, then do it. Reviews are important. I have no clue HOW important what I do is to someone else, but it&#8217;s important to me and that&#8217;s got to count for something.</p>
<p>Anyway, nice post!</p>
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		<title>By: Mame Burkett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mame Burkett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 10:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have loved reading this post and all the accompanying comments.  The blogosphere of readers is so cool!  I really enjoy when a conversation gets good.  I have never seen the Larkin questions before and they are wonderful.  I too am going to copy them and keep them nearby while writing up comments for my blog.  For me, the most important question is do I care?  If I care then I can believe even the most outrageous paranormal or sci fi, example recently is Dean Koontz Darkest Evening of the Year.  If I don&#039;t then it can be the most realistic novel and it won&#039;t work for me, i.e. Fearless Fourteen by Janet Evanovich, ok maybe she isn&#039;t the most realistic. 
There are books that are poorly written I have enjoyed because I connected with the characters immediately and incredible prose I didn&#039;t give two figs about because the characters didn&#039;t connect for me.  
As always, thanks for the interesting post and good conversation.
:)
Mame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have loved reading this post and all the accompanying comments.  The blogosphere of readers is so cool!  I really enjoy when a conversation gets good.  I have never seen the Larkin questions before and they are wonderful.  I too am going to copy them and keep them nearby while writing up comments for my blog.  For me, the most important question is do I care?  If I care then I can believe even the most outrageous paranormal or sci fi, example recently is Dean Koontz Darkest Evening of the Year.  If I don&#8217;t then it can be the most realistic novel and it won&#8217;t work for me, i.e. Fearless Fourteen by Janet Evanovich, ok maybe she isn&#8217;t the most realistic.<br />
There are books that are poorly written I have enjoyed because I connected with the characters immediately and incredible prose I didn&#8217;t give two figs about because the characters didn&#8217;t connect for me.<br />
As always, thanks for the interesting post and good conversation.<br />
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Mame</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 04:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really, really like the Larkin model of reviewing. Seriously...I may pin it up above my computer.

I actually have very little method to my reviewing, which strikes even me as odd. Actually I have a pretty strict method for reviewing academic books (as I suppose one must) but strangely that hasn&#039;t melded much into my fiction reviewing. I mean, you don&#039;t come upon a lot of fiction with bibliographic notes I guess. 

I think when I review I just simply try to hit upon the facets of the book that hit me the most, be they good or bad. I often feel like I put up very mixed reviews - I don&#039;t grade or give stars or any sort of quantifiable method - which can result in me reviewing relatively favorably a book I enjoyed, even though I may harp at the change of agency in the character or anachronism inherent in the plot. And et cedera. But I&#039;ve really resisted giving quantifiable reviews and will continue to do so, since I really don&#039;t feel my reading experience should be summed up that way - most books are both good and bad, and even books I love may have bits that drive me nuts.

I guess I&#039;m sort of rambling. That&#039;ll happen on three cups of coffee. At nine p.m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really, really like the Larkin model of reviewing. Seriously&#8230;I may pin it up above my computer.</p>
<p>I actually have very little method to my reviewing, which strikes even me as odd. Actually I have a pretty strict method for reviewing academic books (as I suppose one must) but strangely that hasn&#8217;t melded much into my fiction reviewing. I mean, you don&#8217;t come upon a lot of fiction with bibliographic notes I guess. </p>
<p>I think when I review I just simply try to hit upon the facets of the book that hit me the most, be they good or bad. I often feel like I put up very mixed reviews &#8211; I don&#8217;t grade or give stars or any sort of quantifiable method &#8211; which can result in me reviewing relatively favorably a book I enjoyed, even though I may harp at the change of agency in the character or anachronism inherent in the plot. And et cedera. But I&#8217;ve really resisted giving quantifiable reviews and will continue to do so, since I really don&#8217;t feel my reading experience should be summed up that way &#8211; most books are both good and bad, and even books I love may have bits that drive me nuts.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m sort of rambling. That&#8217;ll happen on three cups of coffee. At nine p.m.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 02:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed reading your thoughts on reviewing, Ana. It&#039;s a subject I think about a lot myself and I was glad to read your thoughts on it.  I can sympathize with being far more critical of books than you used to be as you review more.  Since reviewing, I tend to notice predictable plots and info dumping a lot more than I did when I read purely for enjoyment.

I think you and Thea both doing an excellent job of giving enough information to get an idea of whether or not a book will jive with someone&#039;s personal taste - and you make it entertaining with lots of personality. And that&#039;s why I (and many others) keep reading. :)

I&#039;m constantly thinking about and trying to refine my own review process, too. The hardest part for me is explaining what I liked/didn&#039;t like and why without spoilers.  Sometimes there&#039;s something I really want to talk about liking or not liking but I can&#039;t because it would give too much away!  And then I obsess over whether or not I&#039;ve given too much away in what I have said and get my fiance to read it and ask him if I should/shouldn&#039;t have said something.  Then he usually tells me to chill an awful lot. ;)

The other part that&#039;s hard is what you mentioned about sometimes you just can&#039;t put your finger on what exactly is missing. That&#039;s so aggravating!

Letting a book sink in for 3 weeks or so is a good idea.  I don&#039;t often do that since I&#039;m afraid I&#039;ll forget too many of the things I want to say, but there have been books that I find I forget easier than I expected or that linger in my memory a lot longer than I expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed reading your thoughts on reviewing, Ana. It&#8217;s a subject I think about a lot myself and I was glad to read your thoughts on it.  I can sympathize with being far more critical of books than you used to be as you review more.  Since reviewing, I tend to notice predictable plots and info dumping a lot more than I did when I read purely for enjoyment.</p>
<p>I think you and Thea both doing an excellent job of giving enough information to get an idea of whether or not a book will jive with someone&#8217;s personal taste &#8211; and you make it entertaining with lots of personality. And that&#8217;s why I (and many others) keep reading. <img src='http://thebooksmugglers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m constantly thinking about and trying to refine my own review process, too. The hardest part for me is explaining what I liked/didn&#8217;t like and why without spoilers.  Sometimes there&#8217;s something I really want to talk about liking or not liking but I can&#8217;t because it would give too much away!  And then I obsess over whether or not I&#8217;ve given too much away in what I have said and get my fiance to read it and ask him if I should/shouldn&#8217;t have said something.  Then he usually tells me to chill an awful lot. <img src='http://thebooksmugglers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The other part that&#8217;s hard is what you mentioned about sometimes you just can&#8217;t put your finger on what exactly is missing. That&#8217;s so aggravating!</p>
<p>Letting a book sink in for 3 weeks or so is a good idea.  I don&#8217;t often do that since I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;ll forget too many of the things I want to say, but there have been books that I find I forget easier than I expected or that linger in my memory a lot longer than I expected.</p>
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